User talk:SBEyes/Archive2

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Thanks a lot!!! Been editing quite a lot here recently... there is still sooooo much to be done ;) --Akira-sensei 17:14, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

thanks
I understand your concern. The non-registered anonymous actually reverted without explanation. I changed it back to the correct format. Will note that for future reference :) Tiggy 05:54, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oops, I missed that. Thanks for telling me. I'll make sure to keep to keep an eye on that article then. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 06:40, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Maybe you need to review what was written then
Greets:

Maybe you need to review what was written then:

"against this harassing player who chooses to take matters into his own hands instead of contacting the proper administrators"

You may have missed that. You may have also missed that I discussed the issue as well and I did that first in what I wrote.

Oh and maybe you need to get off you high horse as well. I;m not sure what you;re probably is towards me but your stuck up attitude towards me is highly insulting. Maybe I don;t have the hundreds of edits other folks here have but I do my best to edit what I can as well as help players in game and on the forums. I know nearly every time I raised an issue here, they've been much either ignored not treated with scorn.

We still haven't gotten the broken footer fixed and how many months has it been? Do you know how bad this site looks in a iphone? You can;t even read it because a third of the screen is blank space on every page load. When did I bring that up? Have we even looked at that issue?

If you want to quote me assume good faith, please kindly do the same about your actions to folks here.

I;ve been looking for an excuse to go play something else lately. Between Branflakes lying to me three times in the forums and your own piss poor attitude, I just got one. --Drmike 12:44, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Using the font html element
Howdy. With this edit did you manually type in the font element or is that something the editor did? The reason I ask is because that element has been phased out.--Rockfang 23:39, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It's the custom sig I've been using for a long time. Haven't thought about how it was coded for a long time, but yes, switching to CSS is a good idea. Thanks for pointing it out. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 05:32, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Been trying to create an account, but the cat captcha thing always fails even tho I select all the cats and none of the dogs. I've tried it over and over and it always fails and says "Incorrect or missing confirmation code". I've also tried just selecting dogs, or selecting none, or selecting all, but nothing works. -jokeshots
 * Please send an in-game mail to @oOeyes with the account name you'd like to register and an email address, drop me a quick line here, and I'll create the account. The wiki will send you an email with instructions for setting your password. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 12:06, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * ok, i sent you an ingame mail
 * all set up, thanks a bunch :)

Hey you!
I need some heeelllpppp

I haven't posted the link on my guildwiki. didn't think it'd belong there, but I'm trying to work on a wiki and I really wonder if you wouldn't mind giving me a hand? I got Wyn over there as well, but ... you're cool. you seem to like both trek and gw as I do. ^.^ please please help me? I think there's a link to my email and I can email you (if you email me - if you want...) the link to the site that I am *sigh* having trouble with... It's gotten me pretty much frustrated...

*sigh* I can't ask any friends on gww or gw2w... :-(

not that they're trek fans either (not that I know of)... Ariyen 00:42, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Playableshipsbytype and Template:Playableshipsbyquery
We still need some assistance from someone skilled in wikiscripting:

--Akira-sensei 22:21, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Template:Playableshipsbytype and Template:Playableshipsbyquery both do NOT accept any faction-parameter, i.e. it is not possible to display a list of ALL klingon or ALL starfleet vessels (at least that option is apparently not working). Also, is there a parameter option to EXCLUDE certain types, i.e. small craft?
 * We absolutely NEED to be able to specify MULTIPLE classifications for 1. ship type (e.g., Caitian Atrox is BOTH a science vessel AND a carrier) and 2. cost & costunit (the new fleet ships cost fleet credits AND fleet ship modules 🇫🇲 - both currencies should be listed on the ship articles and in the list-templates, either in a row or below each other).
 * Ensuring the sort by rank function works properly (You already hinted at inserting a hidden span (i.e. &lt;span style="display: none;">1&lt;/span>) to fix the rank sorting issue - Would you be willing to take care of that?)
 * Karika handled items 1 and 2. I just took care of the ship type, but the other requirement is trickier. It may require using the new #subobject feature of Semantic MediaWiki, or at least a record type field--either way, it'll probably take at least a little experimentation and adjustment of properties to get right. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 11:37, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Have a look here: Klingon_playable_starship. The list-template does NOT accept the parameter for a faction obviously... Unfortunately I do not know how to implement/fix that myself. BTW, why are the new Tholian ships NOT displayed in the lists for Small Craft and Carriers, despite their ship types being properly set? --Akira-sensei 11:46, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You changed the way Playableshipsbyquery handled its parameters so that it couldn't be called the same way. I'm surprised it worked at all in any of its forms, given the way the wiki processes things.
 * For now, it's probably best to stick with Playableshipsbytype. It can do everything listed above as long as its called properly. I'll write a doc page for it real quick. (Except the multiple cost unit thing.)
 * As for the Tholian ships not appearing, that's because it was written to use the cost and cost unit as part of its initial sort. One of the annoying quirks of Semantic MediaWiki is that for any property included in the sort, the query will then exclude any result where those properties aren't set. So I just removed those. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 12:24, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Great. Thanks. Scotty: "How often do I have to tell you? Use the proper tools!" --Akira-sensei 12:50, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Would it be possible to add the function of creating lists with a costunit-paramter. I.e. parameter costunit=FC, thereby creating a list of all fleet ships. --Akira-sensei 14:31, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Done and documented. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 15:55, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * THX! The 🇫🇲 are now correctly displayed on the individual sip articles, but the list-template still only shows tthe first currency. --Akira-sensei 18:32, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * FSM wasn't in the list of allowed values on Property:Has cost unit. That blocked the FSM from getting added to the properties. After fixing that, I had to find a way to get the wiki to update the pages instead of grabbing them from the cache, which I did with a pointless edit and revert to Template:Shiptypeinfo. They've probably all been updated by now, or at least will be soon. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 19:01, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Quote: "IIRC, inserting a hidden span (i.e. 1 ) can be done to fix the rank sorting issue. It's just a matter of putting in a {{#switch: to convert the ranks to a number reflecting the desired sort order. (IIRC, trying this with HTML comments does not work.) — Eyes User-Eyes-Sig.png 17:17, 18 July 2012 (UTC)"
 * Would you be willing to take care of that?--Akira-sensei 23:37, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I thought that had been done, but I guess the previous person's method of using the tier didn't work in all cases. The new method appears to be working fine now. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 14:45, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice, thanks! Could you set the table-template so that it always sorts itself by rank first? And could sort by costs-function sort 1. by costunit and then 2. by cost value? --Akira-sensei 15:13, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * As a temporary measure, I have it initially sorting by the tier number. The span trick only works for the Javascript sort, but the initial sort is handled by Semantic MediaWiki and it doesn't understand the rank order either. Later on, I'll set up a hack using a separate property for that.
 * I guess the hidden span trick should work for the costs, so I'll set that up real quick. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 15:54, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, guess that won't work so well. The script isn't treating the costs as numbers now. I don't see an immediate solution to fix that. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 16:00, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

CAPTCHA
I tried to make a rather simple copyright fix, which requires adding an external link, to this image several times, but it seems some of the dogs in the CAPTCHA were actually cats (and I think it should be pointed out that a system of selecting very small images with an external link, the whole issue here in the first place, under each one is by far the worst CAPTCHA system I've seen online to date), so I'm contacting you, as the last active local admin, per the instructions. I doubt you yourself can do anything about it directly, but please pass this on to whomever made such a poor choice and so richly deserves to know about every little problem anyone has with the current system. Thanks. - Archduk3 03:23, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
 * This is already being investigated. So far, it's been discovered that the Asirra captcha does not work properly within the ConfirmEdit extension. While it works for registrations with only a few problems, even correct solutions don't allow anyone to save the page when editing. We're not sure when this problem started, but the technical team is already testing an alternative way. I've also requested the configuration be changed so registered users don't have to pass the captcha to add external links.


 * tl;dr Odds are, this should get solved before long. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 03:43, 1 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the quick response. - Archduk3 03:54, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Ship
Sorry about that, and same for the shiP? Also question, do you know of a STO webtemplate in HTML? Or can I use some of the images on this wiki as a basis to webtemplate?--Erex 22:26, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but I'm pretty sure I don't know of any HTML templates for anything STO-related.


 * As for using images, for pretty much everything we have, including screenshots, the copyright belongs to Cryptic or one of the other companies behind Star Trek, so we can't extend any permission to use them. Just like us, you'd be on your own determining if the way you're going to use will qualify as fair use. Those rare images that are ours are pretty much all released under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license, which means you pretty much just have to link back to us. In many cases, the file page for the images will identify the copyright for you. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 22:45, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

In the standard configuration of starships, how would you put the name of a console in but have the link redirected??? thanks Hello191 18:51, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The shipequip template does not have this feature. This is one of the rare cases where it's basically okay to link to a redirect (because it would take a lot of work to make support this itself). In this case (if I'm guessing about the right case), you can create a redirect at Console – Universal – Tipler Cylinder by putting the following in the page:


 * 1) REDIRECT Temporal Set
 * You can use the same trick with the # in regular links to send people right to the appropriate heading. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 21:11, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Take a look at the Mobius Temporal Destroyer page in the 3rd paragraph from the top there is a link which directs to the Console - Universal - Tipler Cylinder which is wrong, would it be possible to redirect it to the temporal set??? thanks again Hello191 11:43, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * If you want a link to go to a different page than the text, you can write it like this:  the link text , or in this specific case:  Console - Universal - Tipler Cylinder , which would give you this link: Console - Universal - Tipler Cylinder. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 21:11, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Update of the Main Page
Hi, I've posted a suggestion for some minor updates to the main page on the main page talk. Would be cool if some admin could have a look at it ;) --Akira-sensei 00:13, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Assignmentlocations
While you are working on it, the Embassy on New Romulus has assignments too. --Dukedom 09:03, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Addendum: the locations engineering lab, lounge & mainengineering which were added by Czechout are superfluous. Assignments on shipboard are either a mirror of the sector you are in or from an assignment contact. --Dukedom 10:38, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Sets
Could you insert this bit of text into the relavent position on the sets page as i cannot as it says "This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Section Removal", and also remove the 4 item set heading plz


 * Abilities:


 * Obtained:


 * Obtained:


 * Obtained:

Thanks, Hello191 17:24, 21 November 2012 (UTC)


 * after reading your post on my Talk Page i have tried again but the same problem is happening. As it is a quick edit perhaps an individual with greater access could do it? Hello191 17:31, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Season 7 banner improvement
Hey,

I've posted an improved version of our Season 7 banner on the Main Page talk ;) --Akira-sensei 12:26, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

User Name Fix
Eyes I was told to contact you could you fix my log in user name I messed it up could you change it from Sara MOrgan to Sara Morgan for me? That way I don't have to log in anymore with Sara MOrgan. Thank youSara Morgan 10:40, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Ment Log In
Sorry I had thing wrong I have to log in as Sara MOrgan is there a way to fix it to Sara Morgan for the log in or can the account be deleted so I can recreate it? User:Sara Morgan 22:17, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * As I mentioned, we can't rename or delete accounts; we can only merge them, but right now, there is no account registered under Sara Morgan for me to merge your current account with.
 * If you create a new account under Sara Morgan, I can then combine both accounts into one, leaving you with correct capitalization. Remember that you may have to log out before trying to create a new account. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 07:16, 1 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, and in case there's confusion, Sara MOrgan and Sara Morgan are different usernames as far as the wiki is concerned. In my opinion, it's a design flaw in the software, but we have to live with it. :/ &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 07:31, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Eyes I just tried to recreate a new account with the corrected user name and it won't let me do it. It say's it is to simmilar to what is already there. You may just have to delete the current account so I can make a new one.User:Sara Morgan 06:19, 1 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, I'm not saying we won't delete the account, I'm saying we just plain can't. The wiki software needs to keep a history of all edits ever made and who made them, and if deleting accounts was possible, keeping the history intact wouldn't be. But there's one more thing we can try. If you send me a valid email address, I should be able to create the Sara Morgan account for you, and you'll get an automated email with instructions for claiming it. When you have it, let me know, and I'll combine the accounts. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 23:55, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Ok how do I send you the email address? Should I post it here?User:Sara Morgan 02:40, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You can, but your email address might be picked by spammers that way, though I'll try to do what I can to hide it if you post it here. If you're logged in and have provided an email address in your preferences, you should be able to use this page to send me a message. If you'd prefer to use in-game mail, you can send it to @oOeyes, but please leave a message here if you do that. I don't regularly check my mail in-game anymore. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 07:52, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, you can also send me a whisper in-game too. I'm always logged in through Pidgin, so even if I'm not at the keyboard, I'll see it when I get back. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 08:32, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The account is set up. Let me know if and when you successfully claim it, and I'll merge the old account with it. Hopefully, there are no further problems, and apologies for the inconvenience. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 22:32, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Under Construction Template
I’m thinking of redoing the under construction template but including a random generator for it, only I am having trouble. I would like the same layout i.e. 3 x 2 grid of names except the random generator I use only can olnly generate 1 “value” from a list. Value 1 @@@ Value 2 @@@ Value 3 @@@ Value 4 @@@ ... Having this as a template and inserting it into the Under construction template will complete the deal once finished. &equiv; Hello191 (Talk) 20:22, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You need the ability to select six unique values from a list to complete the deal. Our RandomText extension can't be used to fulfill the unique requirement. What you suggest is going to select duplicates very often unless we put in a very large list of pages, and I don't think it's a good idea to set up something buggy on the main page. I can't rule out that we couldn't come up with some really ugly hack to get unique selection, but we'd probably run hard into certain limits set in the software and just end up with different bugs.
 * I can think of only one reasonable way to accomplish something like this with the tools we have, but it'd require a completely different way to approach this. I'll make the suggestion on Template talk:Under construction so that hopefully more people will see the idea and give feedback. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 00:14, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I have thought about this a bit and done some modifying of the Under construction template using the Did you know...? template, the only problem is the page (new Under Construction Template?) requires multiple pages to have full usage. Also, this template only include stubs from the Stubs Page so I haven’t include pages that have too many expensive parser function calls, works in progress, etc.

Also, would it be possible to include all works in progress or such like it in to one category so that either editors or administrators could access page to be improved. &equiv; Hello191 (Talk) 15:02, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * It's selecting the same page six times. MediaWiki seems to be caching the result during page generation rather than processing the template six times, and this still doesn't meet the unique value requirement. The &lt;random&gt; tag just isn't equipped for this. Also, the only comment on my suggestions for implementing something like this was against the whole idea, and I don't have an opinion either way, so there's no consensus to move forward with this. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 23:24, 19 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Actually, come to think of it, I remember hearing of studies that demonstrate people typically need to see something like this something like seven to nine times (not sure I'm remembering the number correctly) before they will act on it. If the list is changing each time they see it, it may very likely become even less effective. So at this time, I think it's best we stick with a static list that we manually change from time to time. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 23:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * What I mean is that we could have 6 or 7 pages, one for the generation/getting of the info, the other to store it so that each time you refresh the page a different set of links are generated. As I say just an idea not a demand. Thanks &equiv; Hello191 (Talk) User-Hello191-Sig.png 15:34, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

I have successfully managed to create a new under construction template, as a suggestion perhaps trial runs, possibly for admins only. Please note that this template does not include as there is no category page for this subject. Feel free to suggest any changes to the .&equiv; Hello191 (Talk) 16:34, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Unless you're planning to put different pages on each of those pages, there's still a high chance of selecting duplicates. There's also caching issues to consider. Most likely, the list wouldn't update until someone edits the main page or a template included on that page. Until then, everyone would see the same pages. Assuming we found a way to fix that, the main page would have been regenerated on every page load, making it load more slowly for everyone.


 * Feel free to ask on STOWiki talk:Community portal to see if the community supports this change, but I'm afraid I still don't think this is a good idea and won't be supporting it. Sorry. &mdash;  Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 01:02, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Oops, I see the DYK template does deal with the caching issues somehow, but this is still a cumbersome system. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 02:22, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Spam
Found this today

http://www.stowiki.org/File:Fdgf.jpg

http://www.stowiki.org/index.php?title=User:Fhcmunna28&action=edit&redlink=1 Sara Morgan 10:10, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Unable to log in
I'm only asking this since you seem to be the one who knows about how this site works. This is Rayfire I attempted to log in last night and had to reset my password. The site says that it sent the new password, but I haven't received anything yet. What should I do? 71.62.77.158 13:26, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
 * First, I'd just try it again. If you can't get into your account by any other means, you can create a new one, and I can merge your old one with it so all your wiki history is correctly attributed. And if you're really attached to the name Rayfire, I believe you'll be able to recreate it after the merge, and I can then merge your new account with the new one. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 00:38, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
 * It's alright. It worked the second time. Still thank you, and it's good to know I have an option if I get locked out permanently. — Rayfire  [[Image:User-FED-Sig.png|link=User talk:Rayfire]] 04:36, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Trouble with Romulan Republic
Since the dev blog today confirmed that the New Romulan Empire and the Romulan Republic are one and the same, I moved the former to the latter and have been busy tweaking some of the articles as a result. However, when I try to change an NPC's faction allegiance from "New Romulan" to "Romulan Republic", the background color changes to the default blue even though I have already made the necessary updates to this page. It works fine on ships and planets, but not with NPCs. Can you help me figure out what's wrong and/or help me fix it? Thanks. - Mitchz95 20:49, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
 * There are also [ CSS styles] for factions, and the new faction name needed to be added there with the appropriate styles. It should all be working correctly now. &mdash; Eyes  [[Image:User-Eyes-Sig.png|link=User talk:Eyes]] 21:25, 3 April 2013 (UTC)


 * It is, thank you! - Mitchz95 22:42, 3 April 2013 (UTC)